. >> michael steel, a happy, happy man. i think he's the only one who is happy. no, haley barbour was saying this is not the worst thing in the world to have a contesting convention. he said, i don't think anyone in require thought rind -- right mind has thought this is good. >> maybe if he had never run before. but he's been out there, you don't need to learn fen who he is and allow for the mistakes. >> i think mitt romney is not the greatest can dat in the world. he's got skills as a businessman and other skills but i think being a political candidate is not necessarily he highest among them. some people get better after time, i don't think he does. >> it's like a programming note behind the scenes, there are certain operatives, certain officials when they say something, you really do have to listen. i put haley barbour in that category, put karl rove in that category, ed gillespie, who ran the reform n.c. an ran the bush white house for a while. they know so many people and are in constant contact with people across the country, it's tons of expertise, a mirro